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Papo new for 2025

Started by Sim, November 17, 2024, 11:38:20 PM

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bmathison1972

Quote from: sbell on January 10, 2025, 05:54:55 AM
Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 12:37:04 AM
Quote from: JimoAi on January 10, 2025, 12:06:35 AMthresher looks to be a Common

I assume so, and frankly I hope so (new species for me)

They're usually bigeyes, right? Other than at least the kitan Pelagic.

Any ideas why that is?

I thought most thresher figures were pelagic; Safari and Toymany are at least


sbell

Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: sbell on January 10, 2025, 05:54:55 AM
Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 12:37:04 AM
Quote from: JimoAi on January 10, 2025, 12:06:35 AMthresher looks to be a Common

I assume so, and frankly I hope so (new species for me)

They're usually bigeyes, right? Other than at least the kitan Pelagic.

Any ideas why that is?

I thought most thresher figures were pelagic; Safari and Toymany are at least

Maybe that's what it was. But either way, the common isn't commonly made...

bmathison1972

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Quote from: sbell on January 10, 2025, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: sbell on January 10, 2025, 05:54:55 AM
Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 12:37:04 AM
Quote from: JimoAi on January 10, 2025, 12:06:35 AMthresher looks to be a Common

I assume so, and frankly I hope so (new species for me)

They're usually bigeyes, right? Other than at least the kitan Pelagic.

Any ideas why that is?

I thought most thresher figures were pelagic; Safari and Toymany are at least

Maybe that's what it was. But either way, the common isn't commonly made...

And the common is in the Atlantic, and Papo tends to favor local/regional fauna! I'll wait for @Alopias superciliosus to weigh in as well, but if it looks to be a common (or bigeye) I will get it!

Alopias superciliosus

Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 11:37:48 AMI thought most thresher figures were pelagic; Safari and Toymany are at least

Yes, the main ones are:

Kitan: Pelagic
Safari: Pelagic
Toymany: Pelagic

MBA: Bigeye

Lontic/Nayab: Common

What is super interesting is that every thresher shark figure released has been billed "thresher shark" and not identified to the species level by the producer, except for the Kitan Pelagic. So there is some ambiguity about a few. The MBA one is obviously a Bigeye, and the Safari and Toymany most resemble a Pelagic (and Toymany uses a photo of a Pelagic on the figure's page). I think I've seen Common floated around for the Lontic/Nayab; and I do think it resembles a Common the most.

Quote from: sbell on January 10, 2025, 12:55:55 PMMaybe that's what it was. But either way, the common isn't commonly made...

My guess behind why there are more Pelagics than Commons is just that the images that show up first when googling "thresher shark" are of Pelagics. Pelagic threshers are the one's most commonly seen and photographed alive; there's quite a number of dive locations that can allow divers to swim with Pelagics, whereas Common's are mostly encountered by humans through recreational and commercial fishing. Given how basically all these figures are billed as "thresher shark", I don't think there's much general appreciation of the fact that there are three distinct species of thresher. The fact that Common and Pelagic are very similar in appearance doesn't help things. I think the more widespread availability of images of Pelagic threshers alive versus Commons means that more sculptors and designers are working off such images, and the resulting "thresher shark" toy ends up bearing the most similarity to a Pelagic.

Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 01:39:02 PMAnd the common is in the Atlantic, and Papo tends to favor local/regional fauna! I'll wait for @Alopias superciliosus to weigh in as well, but if it looks to be a common (or bigeye) I will get it!

I really hope it's a Common too, as it's the one species lacking a definitive figure. But my thoughts haven't changed with this higher quality image, I still think Bigeye given the size of the eye and how much space there is between the snout and the eye. I can't be certain until I can see it from more angles, but at least now, it is reading more Bigeye than Common to me. Bigeye's are Atlantic and Mediterranean too, so either fits with Papo's regional bias.


bmathison1972

I updated the first post with high-quality pics from Papo's website. The only ones missing are the Garden Animals.

Sim


Sim

Also, the saltwater crocodile looks good!  I am very curious to see a better photo of the leaf insect!

bmathison1972

Quote from: Sim on February 11, 2025, 11:16:28 PMAlso, the saltwater crocodile looks good!  I am very curious to see a better photo of the leaf insect!

I can't remember, but do we know the size of the croc?


JimoAi

I hope the measurements are out soon

Sim

Quote from: bmathison1972 on February 12, 2025, 12:52:10 AMI can't remember, but do we know the size of the croc?
I haven't seen sizes given for the new figures.

bmathison1972

The cardinal and giant leaf insect images have been added to the first post

Gwangi

Quote from: bmathison1972 on February 15, 2025, 11:38:49 PMThe cardinal and giant leaf insect images have been added to the first post

I like this cardinal more than Mojo's. I really need to catchup with Papo's songbirds.

Sim

Thanks B!  They both look excellent.  I intend to get the leaf insect!

SerAndrew

Now that we have better picture, can soneone with more knowledge comment on the saltwater?
Does it really look like one? Or is it a common Nile marked as saltwater?

Thanks!

bmathison1972

Quote from: SerAndrew on February 16, 2025, 12:48:10 PMNow that we have better picture, can soneone with more knowledge comment on the saltwater?
Does it really look like one? Or is it a common Nile marked as saltwater?

Thanks!

That's my burning question, too, and the deciding factor if I pursue it.

SerAndrew

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Quote from: bmathison1972 on February 16, 2025, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: SerAndrew on February 16, 2025, 12:48:10 PMNow that we have better picture, can soneone with more knowledge comment on the saltwater?
Does it really look like one? Or is it a common Nile marked as saltwater?

Thanks!


That's my burning question, too, and the deciding factor if I pursue it.


Someone in mind that can help us here?



JimoAi


there in hand pics of some of them here thought they are blink and you'll miss

SerAndrew

Quite a Nile crocodile, I'm afraid

Sim

It looks like it has an unarmoured anterior neck like a saltwater crocodile to me...

bmathison1972

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Quote from: Sim on February 18, 2025, 04:20:45 PMIt looks like it has an unarmoured anterior neck like a saltwater crocodile to me...

yeah I think it can pass for a Saltie. The legs aren't in the swimming pose, unless they too are articulated.

A bigger concern for me is the size; looks small.