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Papo new for 2025

Started by Sim, November 17, 2024, 11:38:20 PM

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Sim

Quote from: BlueKrono on December 15, 2024, 11:00:14 PMCollectors with a perfectly suitable tiger collecting dust on their shelf certainly don't, but when a 3 year old goes to a store with their parent toy companies better be sure to have one for sale.
I understand @JimoAi's sentiment.  Having a tiger for sale is understandable, but this new one by Papo is the eighth one in their current catalog.  I guess they know best, but to me it seems a bit much to have that many tigers.  They aren't even a pack animal! O:-)


SerAndrew

Ok, after discussing with a friend we think the "saltwater" crocodile looks exactly as a Nile crocodile...
Any other opinion regarding this??

bmathison1972

Quote from: SerAndrew on December 16, 2024, 08:27:05 AMOk, after discussing with a friend we think the "saltwater" crocodile looks exactly as a Nile crocodile...
Any other opinion regarding this??

I can't tell but it was a concern of mine, that's why it's still a tentative on my purchase list.

Saarlooswolfhound

I wouldn't put to much faith in this catalogue as it is NOT an official one from Papo themselves but a catalogue of another company or distributor of products. There are lots of items missing from this catalogue of established figures and rumored new releases both. I would wait until we get an official Papo one before wondering why models are absent/assuming they are retired.

Also, Papo especially has always had a lot of tigers on offer, as has companies like Safari Ltd. (multiple African elephants, lions, tigers, etc.). I quite like this new tiger and have seen favorable reactions over on STS with collectors. I think if it sells it sells! That's what makes it possible to make lesser known models like say, last year's guinea fowl.

Sim

The new crocodile looks like a saltwater crocodile to me.  The neck armour which is used to distinguish between that species and the Nile crocodile matches the saltwater's arrangement, rather than the row of three osteoderms of the Nile crocodile.

bmathison1972

Quote from: Sim on December 16, 2024, 04:35:59 PMThe new crocodile looks like a saltwater crocodile to me.  The neck armour which is used to distinguish between that species and the Nile crocodile matches the saltwater's arrangement, rather than the row of three osteoderms of the Nile crocodile.

Unfortunately non of that is interpretable in a low resolution thumbnail pic. We will have to wait for better images and at different angles.

Sim

Looking at it again I agree it's unclear, but I was looking at the full size catalog page on Paleofiguras..

bmathison1972

Quote from: Sim on December 16, 2024, 05:35:52 PMLooking at it again I agree it's unclear, but I was looking at the full size catalog page on Paleofiguras..

that is a little more helpful but still hard to say. Trust me, I want it to be a saltie, just can't say for sure yet.


SerAndrew

Honestly, differencies are "too subtle" for a brand like Papo. They could have gone for a non-green coloration to have it easier (salties are darker or even yellowish).
And given the generalities of this year's caiman...

I also wish a good saltie but I don't have great hopes

bmathison1972

Quote from: SerAndrew on December 16, 2024, 09:14:52 PMHonestly, differencies are "too subtle" for a brand like Papo. They could have gone for a non-green coloration to have it easier (salties are darker or even yellowish).
And given the generalities of this year's caiman...

I also wish a good saltie but I don't have great hopes

I'd take something more generic marketed as a saltie over something obviously based on something else but marketed as a saltie. Oh well, time will tell! I also hope it's a decent size!

SerAndrew

Quote from: bmathison1972 on December 16, 2024, 11:05:04 PM
Quote from: SerAndrew on December 16, 2024, 09:14:52 PMHonestly, differencies are "too subtle" for a brand like Papo. They could have gone for a non-green coloration to have it easier (salties are darker or even yellowish).
And given the generalities of this year's caiman...

I also wish a good saltie but I don't have great hopes

I'd take something more generic marketed as a saltie over something obviously based on something else but marketed as a saltie. Oh well, time will tell! I also hope it's a decent size!

Well, of course!
Size will be okey, it can always be displayed "swimming far away" if not big enough hehe
But it will depend on your crocs... If you have the Papo nile, I'm pretty sure this saltie will be small. I have the Schleich which is smaller so can be okey. Papo gharial will be too big, but that's a long species so...nevermind

Sim

#51
I think the colouration of the Papo saltwater crocodile is fine for the species it is marketed as, saltwater crocodiles too have variable colouration.  The colouration isn't an exact match to any Nile crocodile I've seen.

I'm aware of the difference in neck osteoderm configuration between the saltwater and Nile crocodiles, but is the Nile's unique to that species?  If it's found in other crocodiles too, and the Papo saltwater has it too, it could be seen as just generic, as mentioned differences can be too subtle for Papo...

Sim

#52
Also, I've been looking at it again and I do think the Papo saltwater crocodile's neck osteoderm arrangement matches the saltwater crocodile's from what can be seen.  It clearly lacks the side neck osteoderms of the Nile crocodile though.

bmathison1972

The official catalogue is out and available here:

https://www.calameo.com/books/006174576eb2fabb41dda

I'll add images to the first post when individual, higher quality images become available

Saarlooswolfhound

#54
Still no bull it appears. Shame, I was looking forward to it.

sbell

Can we all take a moment to realize that the French name for thresher sharks (fox shark, requin renard) has a cooler ring to it?


Sim

Quote from: sbell on January 09, 2025, 05:58:18 PMCan we all take a moment to realize that the French name for thresher sharks (fox shark, requin renard) has a cooler ring to it?
I find the English name sounds cooler.

JimoAi

thresher looks to be a Common

bmathison1972

Quote from: JimoAi on January 10, 2025, 12:06:35 AMthresher looks to be a Common

I assume so, and frankly I hope so (new species for me)

sbell

#59
Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 10, 2025, 12:37:04 AM
Quote from: JimoAi on January 10, 2025, 12:06:35 AMthresher looks to be a Common

I assume so, and frankly I hope so (new species for me)

They're usually bigeyes, right? Other than at least the kitan Pelagic.

Any ideas why that is?