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Chondricthyans

Started by sbell, December 09, 2012, 07:14:49 PM

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bmathison1972

looks like a hybrid :). Dorsal coloring and caudal fin morphology supports M. alfredi, but ventral could go either way (the black spots are not among the gills, but they are pretty close to them). If I had to say, I would call this M. alfredi (reef manta)


JimoAi

Quote from: bmathison1972 on December 30, 2020, 05:22:51 PM
looks like a hybrid :). Dorsal coloring and caudal fin morphology supports M. alfredi, but ventral could go either way (the black spots are not among the gills, but they are pretty close to them). If I had to say, I would call this M. alfredi (reef manta)
I actually added more black spots on mine and some on the grey patch. I don't know what did I do with mine when I was a preteen. Unlikely I'll get a new one because mine was with me during some hard times coping with life those years ago (got mine when it first came out and it was alr quite beaten at the store). Might eventually replace the colorata one on my main display because of how much it means to me. And speaking of hybrid, maybe it's mom is a reef and it's dad is a giant oceanic, the possibilities are endless

JimoAi

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Also, do keep in mind that no 2 manta rays have the same patternings

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bmathison1972

Quote from: JimoAi on December 31, 2020, 09:12:47 AM
Quote from: JimoAi on December 31, 2020, 09:12:19 AM
@bmathison1972 any further thoughts? The spots look more like M.alfredi though

yes, I thought I had said that already - M. alfredi

JimoAi

Anyone knows how to properly measure shark figures?  download (1).png


Gwangi

There's more than one way to measure a fish, but for figures I would say that total length (TL) works fine.

bmathison1972

on my daily museum post, I first used pre-caudal length for the GWS, but since then I have used total length. Earlier walkarounds of mine probably also used pre-caudal length.

JimoAi

Anyone knows the scale of the safari ltd cownose ray? The standard one

sbell

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Quote from: JimoAi on January 14, 2021, 01:47:41 PM
Anyone knows the scale of the safari ltd cownose ray? The standard one
According to the Safari site the figure is 7"/18cm across.
Average cownose ray wingspan is 213cm.

So around 1/12?

Honestly, that's pretty easy information to google and then math!

bmathison1972

Quote from: sbell on January 14, 2021, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: JimoAi on January 14, 2021, 01:47:41 PM
Anyone knows the scale of the safari ltd cownose ray? The standard one
According to the Safari site the figure is 7"/18cm across.
Average cownose ray wingspan is 213cm.

So around 1/12?

Honestly, that's pretty easy information to google and then math!

Sounds like Safari's measurements are off. I have this figure. It is 13.3 cm long. According to FishBase, the length is 62-120 cm, for a scale of 1:4.6-1:9.
However, the width of the figure is 9.5 cm for a scale of 1:11.5-1:22 (based on an animal's width of 1.1-2.1 meters according to Wikipedia).

My sources for length (FishBase) and width (Wikipedia) are different so they may be using different sources.

Assuming the proportions are correct, the FishBase scale is probably more accurate.

Either way, I have given you the measurements of the figure; you can calculate based on whatever reference you use.

sbell

Quote from: bmathison1972 on January 14, 2021, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: sbell on January 14, 2021, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: JimoAi on January 14, 2021, 01:47:41 PM
Anyone knows the scale of the safari ltd cownose ray? The standard one
According to the Safari site the figure is 7"/18cm across.
Average cownose ray wingspan is 213cm.

So around 1/12?

Honestly, that's pretty easy information to google and then math!

Sounds like Safari's measurements are off. I have this figure. It is 13.3 cm long. According to FishBase, the length is 62-120 cm, for a scale of 1:4.6-1:9.
However, the width of the figure is 9.5 cm for a scale of 1:11.5-1:22 (based on an animal's width of 1.1-2.1 meters according to Wikipedia).

My sources for length (FishBase) and width (Wikipedia) are different so they may be using different sources.

Assuming the proportions are correct, the FishBase scale is probably more accurate.

Either way, I have given you the measurements of the figure; you can calculate based on whatever reference you use.

Maybe I accidentally looked at the IC model for the wingspan? Wingspan (disc width) is definitely a better measurement for ray figures, since the trailing tails are usually cut short.

JimoAi

Quote from: sbell on January 14, 2021, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: JimoAi on January 14, 2021, 01:47:41 PM
Anyone knows the scale of the safari ltd cownose ray? The standard one
According to the Safari site the figure is 7"/18cm across.
Average cownose ray wingspan is 213cm.

So around 1/12?

Honestly, that's pretty easy information to google and then math!
The 213cm ones are exceptionally large specimens of I'm not wrong

JimoAi

I have a really percular chondricthian I'm revealling tomorrow


Advicot

Ooh there are so many chondricthyans that are unusual which have you picked? Hmmm  :D
Don't I take long uploading photos!

JimoAi

Anyone has the Papo whale shark next to the Monterey bay Aquarium whale shark?

JimoAi

Anyone wants more batoids to be made as I think they are overshadowed by sharks

JimoAi

 IMG_20210122_114541_1_50.jpg all m figures from my favourite animal group: the batoids