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Monterey Bay Aquarium cast variants.

Started by callmejoe3, December 27, 2020, 05:16:20 PM

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JimoAi

Quote from: callmejoe3 on February 10, 2021, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: JimoAi on February 10, 2021, 08:50:51 AM
Why do you think of the monterey bay Aquarium great white as a whole? I think it's always in an attacking pose. Could i also see the top view of the tail? Thank you

Overall, I think it's a pretty nice figure, especially for the time it came out. At the same time, I think it's arguably the worst-aging figure out of the entire MBA collection. I mean this in the sense that there has been a wide variety of better great white shark figures since the MBA figure's release, especially within the last 10 years. The biggest issue is the sculpt for the mouth and the dentition, which aged this figure the most (mouth detail is a general weak spot for the MBA figures, hence why the mouth-closed animals have aged better). Most of the other species from the MBA line are either fairly on-par with later releases or still stand as among the best existing figures for their respective species. I have similar feelings on the gray whale, but it still benefits from the fact that there aren't a lot of gray whale toys out there beyond the Maia and Borges and CollectA figures.

Here's the photo you asked for


There has been a slew of great whites but many are by cheap toy companies. The only better ones I can think off are the schleich1:32 scale one, 2013 And 2018 and safari 2016.


JimoAi

I was referring to the nose being akin to this  1195729.jpg

callmejoe3

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Quote from: JimoAi on February 11, 2021, 02:47:56 AM
I was referring to the nose being akin to this  1195729.jpg

Yeah, the nose is fine, but what really gets to me is the blocky teeth. Do you own the 2018 Schleich figure? Would it work in the 1:40 scale as an exceptionally-large female or is it too big?

JimoAi

Quote from: callmejoe3 on February 11, 2021, 03:10:46 AM
Quote from: JimoAi on February 11, 2021, 02:47:56 AM
I was referring to the nose being akin to this  1195729.jpg

Yeah, the nose is fine, but what really gets to me is the blocky teeth. Do you own the 2018 Schleich figure? Would it work in the 1:40 scale as an exceptionally-large female or is it too big?
Yes I do own her

JimoAi

On the topic on teeth, it's done blocky for children's safety

JimoAi

 IMG_20210211_122505.jpg  IMG_20210211_122330.jpg I would say it might work and might not work as a 1:40 scale of there are 8 metre great whites ad the new schleich great white is 19cm when measured along the curve. The safari 2016 one is a 1:40 scale for a 21foot female

callmejoe3

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Quote from: JimoAi on February 11, 2021, 04:19:14 AM
On the topic on teeth, it's done blocky for children's safety

I was under the impression it was a limitation of the sculpt, given how animals such as the beluga and killer whale with blunter dentition still had awkward mouths. Ultimately, it would have been smarter to be more conservative with only partially agape mouths like the tiger shark. It would have adhered to safety without undermining from the quality of the figure.

callmejoe3

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Quote from: JimoAi on February 11, 2021, 04:26:53 AM
IMG_20210211_122505.jpg  IMG_20210211_122330.jpg I would say it might work and might not work as a 1:40 scale of there are 8 metre great whites ad the new schleich great white is 19cm when measured along the curve. The safari 2016 one is a 1:40 scale for a 21foot female

Thanks for the comparison shot! It seems the Schleich figure is just a bit too big for my tastes. Most sources I refer to for megafauna sizes suggest 7m to be a more reliable maximum length for great whites that were reliably reported. 8 meter-individuals may have existed, but this would still be a super-extreme outlier in size. I'm probably going to have to go with the Safari 2016 figure. Thanks.


JimoAi

I used to have a 1:40 scale collection when I first got my safari ltd feathered tyrannosaurus but reduced to only marine animals above 30ft being 1:40 while dinosaurs being 1:35.abyways,Colorata has some 1:40 scale sharks for the old sharks of the world set and the monterey bay manta ray could work as 1:40 scale if you plan to use it as the gigantic 30ft individuals. Some of the pelagic fish toob figures are also about 1:40 scale

JimoAi

Quote from: callmejoe3 on February 11, 2021, 05:02:28 AM
Quote from: JimoAi on February 11, 2021, 04:19:14 AM
On the topic on teeth, it's done blocky for children's safety

I was under the impression it was a limitation of the sculpt, given how animals such as the beluga and killer whale with blunter dentition still had awkward mouths. Ultimately, it would have been smarter to be more conservative with only partially agape mouths like the tiger shark. It would have adhered to safety without undermining from the quality of the figure.
That's true but without the wide open mouth, the nose would not have made sense. Take a look at the old great white sculpt for example

JimoAi

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The new great white has relatively blunt teeth but from 2017 onwards, some dinosaurs and prehistoric life have pointier teetg

callmejoe3

Quote from: JimoAi on February 11, 2021, 05:56:34 AM
That's true but without the wide open mouth, the nose would not have made sense. Take a look at the old great white sculpt for example

But if the mouth were to be closed anyway, they could have sculpted the nose accordingly to the proper shape. I see no reason why that couldn't have been done.

callmejoe3

Quote from: JimoAi on February 11, 2021, 05:48:23 AM
I used to have a 1:40 scale collection when I first got my safari ltd feathered tyrannosaurus but reduced to only marine animals above 30ft being 1:40 while dinosaurs being 1:35.abyways,Colorata has some 1:40 scale sharks for the old sharks of the world set and the monterey bay manta ray could work as 1:40 scale if you plan to use it as the gigantic 30ft individuals. Some of the pelagic fish toob figures are also about 1:40 scale

I don't think I'll be using the Manta at the 1:40 scale as reports of 9-meter individuals weren't done using direct measurements, so it's in a similar position as the 8-meter great white.

JimoAi

I think that safari's monterey bay is better than collectA's and has aged way better than safari LTD's OG great white

callmejoe3

Quote from: JimoAi on February 12, 2021, 07:10:52 AM
I think that safari's monterey bay is better than collectA's and has aged way better than safari LTD's OG great white

Yeah, it's still better than those two.

JimoAi



JimoAi

On the topic on great whites, did you know that great whites have been observed attacking live humpback whales?

callmejoe3

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Quote from: JimoAi on February 12, 2021, 01:42:08 PM
On the topic on great whites, did you know that great whites have been observed attacking live humpback whales?

Yeah, I've read the journal article about it. It's very fascinating. However, I've ran into a lot of people who overlooked the details of the incident. The event observed recently was a 7m immature humpback that had been entangled in a net for a very long time, which restricted its ability to dive. As a consequence, it was heavily malnourished and was in very poor health. It's been known for a while that large sharks would opportunistically kill a whale that was already compromised, though it wasn't until recently until we've observed it from a great white. Chances are likely that if the whale weren't already in a critical state with impaired mobility, it would have posed too much of a risk to the great white. Hence why most of the whale meat a great white obtains is usually through scavenging.


JimoAi

Some of the retired monterey bay figures, like the babies and the thresher shark still live on as toob figures