Animaltoyblog or Dinotoyblog?

[sirenia]

WOW, what a day to go into the Blog email and find our first review by DTB member @sirenia (indohyus on DTF/DTB): http://animaltoyforum.com/blog/2020/04/22/gharial-wild-animals-by-papo/

And, it was followed by our first by @Loon , which I hope to get up tomorrow, pending reviews by other authors!!!!!

Excited to get reviews by TWO DTF members on the ATB!!!!

EDIT: anyone notice our last four reviews begin with the letter 'G'? 

Happy to oblige! Got more planned, so won't be my last!

Just curious, based on comments on my eternal lost breeds post on the DTB, how recent would we call recently extinct animals? Last hundred years, pre photography or further? Trying to get a feel for future reviews.

[bmathison1972]

Just curious, based on comments on my eternal lost breeds post on the DTB, how recent would we call recently extinct animals? Last hundred years, pre photography or further? Trying to get a feel for future reviews.

Oh I don't know. I don't think there are any criteria. I was being more snarky LOL. Maybe @animaltoyforum can say. Most extinct animals that are on DTB are there because there was not an ATB at the time.

For me personally, prehistoric means before written history, so 3500-5000 years ago, but there are clearly things in that range that belong on DTB. Another possibility is before the term Modern History, which is before 1500 AD.

[AnimalToyForum]

Just curious, based on comments on my eternal lost breeds post on the DTB, how recent would we call recently extinct animals? Last hundred years, pre photography or further? Trying to get a feel for future reviews.

Oh I don't know. I don't think there are any criteria. I was being more snarky LOL. Maybe @animaltoyforum can say. Most extinct animals that are on DTB are there because there was not an ATB at the time.

For me personally, prehistoric means before written history, so 3500-5000 years ago, but there are clearly things in that range that belong on DTB. Another possibility is before the term Modern History, which is before 1500 AD.

Yes, there is no hard and fast definition, so it is something we can discuss. We could justify migrating certain Dinotoyblog reviews over to the Animaltoyblog, which could be a more appropriate venue for, say, the ivory billed woodpecker (e.g. http://dinotoyblog.com/genus/ivory-billed-woodpecker/) and thylacine (http://dinotoyblog.com/2016/01/30/thylacine-mojofun/). Perhaps a poll is in order.

[AnimalToyForum]

I've split this topic for us to discuss where to draw the line between Animaltoyblog and Dinotoyblog content.

Prior to the launch of the  Animal Toy Blog, all extinct animals were posted on the Dinotoyblog. This included recently extinct animals such as the dodo, thylacine, and ivory-billed woodpecker. It is a simple strategy - extinct vs extant. But does it make sense now that the Animal Toy Blog exists? Should the dividing line change?

[BlueKrono]

I think animals that went extinct in the last 500 years could have a place here, if only because of the likely interest of the respective groups.

[stargatedalek]

Even when we're talking about recently extinct animals, a lot of them can end up in very different situations. Look at dodos, which until very recently had as many unknowns in their reconstruction as any Mesozoic dinosaur. Versus something like a Quagga or Thylacine those dodo figures might as well be representing a prehistoric animal in terms of methodology of their reconstruction.

Does that mean dodos should go on the DTB even though some animals that went extinct earlier are better known than they are? Should some mammoth species go on the ATB because they are well known and coexisted with humans? I think there is just too much room for confusion.

Personally I'd either keep it as it is now, where all extinct animals go on the DTB, or create a grey zone, where animals can be placed on either or. Perhaps animals documented in colour footage or photographs.

[bmathison1972]

I don't think we need defined taxa and parameters. I say we continue as-is, and if something in the 'gray areas' is submitted to one of the blogs, the Admin and editors can discuss where it may best fit.

[sirenia]

I quite agree. Got a decent line between the extant of the animal blog and extinct of the dino blog. Can always discuss further if unsure.

[AnimalToyForum]

Fair enough, let's keep it as is (extinct vs extant) and discuss on a case by case basis for specific creatures that may straddle that line.

[Physeter macrocephalus]

Even when we're talking about recently extinct animals, a lot of them can end up in very different situations. Look at dodos, which until very recently had as many unknowns in their reconstruction as any Mesozoic dinosaur. Versus something like a Quagga or Thylacine those dodo figures might as well be representing a prehistoric animal in terms of methodology of their reconstruction.

Does that mean dodos should go on the DTB even though some animals that went extinct earlier are better known than they are? Should some mammoth species go on the ATB because they are well known and coexisted with humans? I think there is just too much room for confusion.

Personally I'd either keep it as it is now, where all extinct animals go on the DTB, or create a grey zone, where animals can be placed on either or. Perhaps animals documented in colour footage or photographs.

I agree here for example if someone on DTB rewiew a dodo they make green frame for photos.