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Games / Re: Name that critter
« on: December 14, 2012, 08:26:49 PM »

And a new one:


Cycad weevil! Antliarhis zamia

now a weird one...


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And since the coelacanths came out, might as well round out the lobe-fins with the lungfish.

(Note: I accidentally put this in the wrong thread. Lungfish correction!).

As I complained about the arowana--where are the African and South American species? This time, it's all about the Australian Neoceratodus forsteri. They are of course very cool and evolutionarily interesting--but where are the Lepidosiren and Protopterus?

Anyway, here are the Australian lungfish that I have. These 'fish with history' are almost out now (almost)...someone is going to have to find some more! Or, more important--start making some more!

Yowies Series 3 (which makes sense--Australian fish from an Australian line):


Colorata Fossil Fishes older version:


Colorata Fossil Fishes newer version:


Toba Aquarium Series II (although I've seen it show up in other sets as well--the Toba ones get a lot of reuse!):


Epoch Living Fossil Collection:

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Those are really nice ones.

I guess I forgot about eels...there are lots of eels. I will have to organize for that one!

But I might as well add the not-eel gymnotid:

Electric Eel, Kaiyodo Aquarium Series:

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 14, 2012, 03:44:27 PM »
I have no idea what I did there...other than put a post in the wrong thread!

And apparently I am no good with the alphabet...

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 14, 2012, 03:24:47 PM »
Yellow tail Snapper

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Animal art and photography / Re: Fauna Casts Animal Models
« on: December 14, 2012, 03:22:46 PM »
How about a Saiga antelope? They are almost extinct anyway, but very cool--and would fit well as cross-promotion for Pleistocene fans!

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Very nice Boki--the coelacanths are definitely another one in which I am missing several. I will get others up later.

The only ones I need to add are the Colorata Fossil fishes:

Old style:


New version:

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 14, 2012, 04:09:19 AM »
Upside-down catfish

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 14, 2012, 12:35:09 AM »
Hey, ratfish was used already

Spiny eel

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And thinking of species that are used as food, isn't it a bit unfair? I mean, gashapon companies make tons of sets like noodle soups, sweets, candy, sushi and what not as figures... :o I never understood that, but I guess there is a market for that.

I've seen that too--and there are some sets based on food fish no less (I think they are those weird straps).

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Now the pictures--and I know for a fact that, even discounting the paper models that I don't have the patience for, there are several of the Scleropgaes and probably the Arapaima that I don't have. They are certainly among the more popular of the 'ancient fish' in Japanese figures (nobody else makes them...again, that I know of, and again with the one exception).

First, Asian Arowana (there are a lot of colour forms/breeds, but I don't always know them, feel free to point them out):
It's no wonder it had to be Scleropages to be probably the best represented among them since it's very popular in China and considered a luck bringing animal.
Pouyaud et al. (2003) splitted the different morphotypes of S. formosus into distinct species, but I'm not sure about the general acceptance of this, at least fishbase treats them as separate species. They are identified by colour but also by body and head proportions (maxillary length, head width and height versus length, distances between pelvic and anal fins and length of anal fin and the like). The KeiCraft paper model shown above, as well as the Yujin and the newer Colorata may or may not be identified as S. legendrei, the version 1 Colorata as S. aureus, the Marmit may be S. macrocephalus. Although this is just regarding their colour, I have not checked head/body proportions of the ones I have.

Oh, while we were talking about paddlefish and paper models, there is a free (and obviously very simple) kit of Polyodon spathula, too. :) Haven't made one, yet, but should not take longer than half han hour or so.

I'm also a little puzzled why there's (probably) no knifefish figure, yet, at least Notopterus chitala is so distinctive and popular, but mainly because it's used as food, I've seen them in Asian food markets, too... in the fridge! BTW, some 20 years ago I've also seen frozen Australian lungfish Neoceratodus forsteri in an Asian market in Paris and was wondering how this could be legal, an appendix II species from Australia? Don't know if there are commercial farms that succesfully breed them.

That's what I thought--at least the fish that they associate with a lot should be a figure by now, and yet I've never seen ones like knifefish! On the other hand, it took until this past year to get a famous one like an electric eel, so who knows how they make decisions.

And I was not aware of the formosus splits.  I tend not to follow things like that too much, especially when they are based on color or small variations. And given that the figures aren't likely to be that distinctive other than through color, I'm not inclined to figure out which ones fit where.

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 13, 2012, 09:59:29 PM »
Paddlefish

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Impressive ancient fish collection Sbell!

They have probably been my real passion since I was 12 or so--if I stuck to them, and only them. I would have a very small collection!

And you can't imagine how it was for a 12 year old that just really wanted a bichir figure!  I didn't get one until I was 30!

Of course, in those days sharks were hard enough to get as decent toys. Oddball fish were never going to happen (other than that MPC set that, without the internet, I wouldn't have known about). So I kept live ones instead!

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Well, maybe they'll show up someday...

But now--Bonytongues!

These are mainly represented by the Osteoglossiformes, primarily Asian Arowana Scleropages formosus and Pirarucu Arapaima gigas.  There is one little oddity that I have. And I know that Kaiyodo Aqualand made a Silver Arowana Osteoglossum bicirrhosum that I didn't know until recently existed, but would very much like to hunt down.

As an order, however, it is much broader--Freshwater butterflyfish Pantodon bucholzi (only Pantodontid), Elephant fish (Mormyridae), Featherfin Knifefish (Notopteridae) and the Aba Gymnarchus niloticus (only Gymnarchid).  As far as I know, none of these families is represented as figures. This is odd as many are popular in aquariums (despite how inappropriate some of them are...), especially in Asia.  As far as I know. I want people to not only prove me wrong, but help me find them!

I mean, come on, two of those families are electric! Yet, ironically(?), the knifefish are not; but a different family of fish called knifefish is electric...small digression...anyway (and they might even fit in this thread too, since they hail from the Cretaceous and have one, pretty famous relative with a figure).

Now the pictures--and I know for a fact that, even discounting the paper models that I don't have the patience for, there are several of the Scleropgaes and probably the Arapaima that I don't have. They are certainly among the more popular of the 'ancient fish' in Japanese figures (nobody else makes them...again, that I know of, and again with the one exception).

First, Asian Arowana (there are a lot of colour forms/breeds, but I don't always know them, feel free to point them out):

Yujin Freshwater Fishes Series I secret figure


Colorata Fossil Fishes:
Original


Newer version:


Toba Aquarium Series II


Marmit 'World of Tropical Fish' Special figure; Yellow-Tail variety (sometimes I know!)


Pirarucu:

Epoch 'Living Fossil Collection' (missing its peg & base, but I do have one...)


Colorata Fossil Fishes:
Original


Newer version:


Toba Aquarium Series II


And finally, because we can always count on Yowies to let Australia represent, a Spotted Saratoga Scleropages leichardti from Series 5



Not exactly to the standards of the Japanese figures, but at least it was made!

So now, add the ones you have. It gives me something to look for!

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 13, 2012, 06:22:41 PM »
Nurse shark.

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Well, at least there is a sort of goofy looking bathtub toy (which can squirt water) that's been distributed by Tchibo (a coffee store company that offers many other goods, too):


Since you mentioned American Paddlefish, well, the "rostrum" is completely cylindrical and quite narrow. But I still think it's not meant to be Psephurus gladius. It comes from a set of five animal toys which also included an Opah (Lampris guttatus).

So the real question--can you get me one?!

And doing a quick look...it appears that a Psephurus figure may belong in the extinct figures column now (if there were any made). None have been located since 2003.

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 13, 2012, 01:32:35 PM »
Kribensis cichlid.

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All right, time for some Chondrostean love.  Pretty much sturgeons, with only one paddlefish (how the Chinese species has missed Japanese figure-making notice, I don't know).

Replica Toy Fish Shovelnose sturgeon (I know it has already been pictured, but this is a different view):

Again, maybe someday he'll get the rest of the proposed ones done...

Colorata Fossil Fishes Chinese sturgeon:
Original version:


Newer version:


Kaiyodo Enoshima Aquarium, Capsule Aquarium Series V.1
White sturgeon:


Epoch Shark Ray Series, Life On Earth Trip Series
Beluga Sturgeon


I think there may be one or two other sturgeon figures out there.  If so, I hope they show up here!

And finally, the only American Paddlefish I've found:
From Whittier Decoys (also the source of the previously-pictured only Bowfin):


But if anyone can prove otherwise I really want to know!

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 12, 2012, 11:39:32 PM »
Well, I already used gar...

turns out I isn't very frequent for fishes' common names, so Wikipedia to the rescue:
 Inanga!

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Games / Re: Fish and Sharks A-Z
« on: December 12, 2012, 09:41:16 PM »
!!!GAR






.....den eel!! ;D

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