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Bandai tropical fish: characin
« on: January 10, 2018, 07:52:37 PM »
Bandai's tropical fish set consists of 15 varieties, but only 3 sculpts. This thread is for the characin sculpt, which represents 4 species (and one domestic strain) by changing the paint job.

First up: Tucanoichthys tucanoi, a truly minute tetra species endemic to Uaupés River in Brazil. It's named after a group of indigenous tribes, the Tucano. I don't think the species has a standardized common name, but most people I know call it the Tucano tetra.







The maximum recorded length is 1.7 cm, so these figures, despite being only 2.8 cm long, are almost twice life size. Annoyingly, they're missing the adipose fin. Every tetra species in this set should have one. Sure, it's going to be small on these tiny characids, but it should still be visible.

I'll do the other characid species soon. I mostly collect prehistoric figures, and I would find it pretty annoying in that context if a company simply repainted a figure and called it a new species. But the truth it a lot of freshwater fish differ in extremely minor ways externally, apart from their coloration. You'd need geometric morphometrics (or tooth or fin ray counts, depending) to tell them apart with all color information removed. So I don't bedgrudge Bandai the re-use of this mold, but I still begrudge them the missing adipose fin.
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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 12:00:39 AM »
Yeah, Tim! So glad you are contributing to reviews here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 12:47:46 AM »
Knowing that this is an unusual species makes it more interesting for me...but knowing that such an important physical feature was left off kind of makes it lower priority. Too bad, since Bandai is usually so good at this sort of thing!

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 01:05:48 AM »
Yeah, Tim! So glad you are contributing to reviews here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha ha, well thanks for the enthusiastic welcome!

Knowing that this is an unusual species makes it more interesting for me...but knowing that such an important physical feature was left off kind of makes it lower priority. Too bad, since Bandai is usually so good at this sort of thing!

At least it's not a really prominent appendage like the anal fin [cough cough CollectA Leedsicthys cough].

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 02:16:27 AM »

Knowing that this is an unusual species makes it more interesting for me...but knowing that such an important physical feature was left off kind of makes it lower priority. Too bad, since Bandai is usually so good at this sort of thing!

At least it's not a really prominent appendage like the anal fin [cough cough CollectA Leedsicthys cough].

WHAAAAAAA!? :o I didn't even notice! To be fair, I haven't done much with it; I've been emptying and resetting my shelves, so it's just been kind of sittig around while I decide how to organize.

I guess I'll just stare at my giant 1/40 model Leedsichthys instead! ;D



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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 03:07:18 AM »

Knowing that this is an unusual species makes it more interesting for me...but knowing that such an important physical feature was left off kind of makes it lower priority. Too bad, since Bandai is usually so good at this sort of thing!

At least it's not a really prominent appendage like the anal fin [cough cough CollectA Leedsicthys cough].

WHAAAAAAA!? :o I didn't even notice! To be fair, I haven't done much with it; I've been emptying and resetting my shelves, so it's just been kind of sittig around while I decide how to organize.

I guess I'll just stare at my giant 1/40 model Leedsichthys instead! ;D

Stare a little longer and you'll see that it too is missing its anal fin, and instead has pelvic fins, which most pachycormids lacked. (Granted, that portion of Leedischthys in particular is not preserved, to my knowledge.)

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 03:22:59 AM »

Knowing that this is an unusual species makes it more interesting for me...but knowing that such an important physical feature was left off kind of makes it lower priority. Too bad, since Bandai is usually so good at this sort of thing!

At least it's not a really prominent appendage like the anal fin [cough cough CollectA Leedsicthys cough].

WHAAAAAAA!? :o I didn't even notice! To be fair, I haven't done much with it; I've been emptying and resetting my shelves, so it's just been kind of sittig around while I decide how to organize.

I guess I'll just stare at my giant 1/40 model Leedsichthys instead! ;D

Stare a little longer and you'll see that it too is missing its anal fin, and instead has pelvic fins, which most pachycormids lacked. (Granted, that portion of Leedischthys in particular is not preserved, to my knowledge.)

So it is...but it's still fun to stare at!

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2018, 02:39:22 AM »
Here's the next version of the Bandai characin, Paracheirodon innesi, the neon tetra. This wild-type version is number 3 in the series, but I'm posting it second because I'm a rebel.



Not sure it's really possible to capture the electric glow of a neon, but these figures at least have the overall color distribution about right.



The acrylic rods they come with are ball-jointed at the base, so you can adjust each fish's angle of attack. Maybe the left one is going after a tasty chironomid larva.



The gravel base is very nicely done but it says "home aquarium" a little too loudly for my taste.

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2018, 06:59:46 AM »
really realy nice models! I think the Japanese fish figurines are te best. Takara just has released a new set of fish, I am sure you willl heve seen. :-)
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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2018, 08:59:07 PM »
really realy nice models! I think the Japanese fish figurines are te best. Takara just has released a new set of fish, I am sure you willl heve seen. :-)

Actually, I don't think I am familiar with it! I'd be interested in learning more.



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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2018, 09:50:59 PM »
really realy nice models! I think the Japanese fish figurines are te best. Takara just has released a new set of fish, I am sure you willl heve seen. :-)

Actually, I don't think I am familiar with it! I'd be interested in learning more.

this Takara set (all marine) looks like a re-release, but Sean will know for sure:

http://toypara.com/catalog.cgi?products/gasya/zukan/kaisui2008.html
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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #11 on: Today at 12:22:10 AM »
really realy nice models! I think the Japanese fish figurines are te best. Takara just has released a new set of fish, I am sure you willl heve seen. :-)

Actually, I don't think I am familiar with it! I'd be interested in learning more.

this Takara set (all marine) looks like a re-release, but Sean will know for sure:

http://toypara.com/catalog.cgi?products/gasya/zukan/kaisui2008.html

Oh, I have seen that set, I just didn't know it was Takara. Thanks for the info! I only collect the medium-sized clade I study, and none of the living species is marine.

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #12 on: Today at 12:30:38 AM »
The least interesting part of this set, for me, is the leucistic neon tetra (Paracheirodon innesi). It's one of several captive strains of neon that you can get in the pet trade.



The pigmented eye tells me it's leucistic, although breeders also offer albino neons. Bandai's paint job does a pretty decent job of capturing the pearly sheen of a leucistic individual.



At least the aquarium-gravel base makes more sense for these. This is not a variety found in nature.

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Re: Bandai tropical fish: characin
« Reply #13 on: Today at 01:58:33 AM »
really realy nice models! I think the Japanese fish figurines are te best. Takara just has released a new set of fish, I am sure you willl heve seen. :-)

Actually, I don't think I am familiar with it! I'd be interested in learning more.

this Takara set (all marine) looks like a re-release, but Sean will know for sure:

http://toypara.com/catalog.cgi?products/gasya/zukan/kaisui2008.html

Oh, I have seen that set, I just didn't know it was Takara. Thanks for the info! I only collect the medium-sized clade I study, and none of the living species is marine.

I do know about that series! I only have the cutlassfish...Not sure if they are re-releasing it using the same bases and peg-system (instead of holes, the fish I have is held by a clear 'claw' around the body).

For the most part, I collect freshwater fish, and generally more unusual/primitive ones--but the cutlassfish is unusual enough! I am glad that this one is back out, but I would prefer a new series of new species myself!